Error [6099] in Matrix-Calculation with HGV-Profile

openrouteservice
1

Hello everyone,

I’m back with another issue trying to calculate matrices using the HGV-Profile. The starting point is the same as mentioned here (Win10-System, WSL2, Docker Desktop):

  1. Download and extract ORS-Github-Repo, clean folder and create reguired folders
  2. Adapt pbf to use Germany-2018 (“ARG OSM_FILE=./germany-180101.osm.pbf”)
  3. Change Dockerfile to keep profiles “car” and “hgv” (“del(.ors.services.routing.profiles.active[2,3,4,5,6,7,8])”)
  4. Build image and run

docker build -t ors-test .

docker run -dt -u "${UID}:${GID}" --name ors-hgv -p 8080:8080 -v $PWD/graphs:/ors-core/data/graphs -v $PWD/elevation_cache:/ors-core/data/elevation_cache -v $PWD/conf:/ors-conf -e "JAVA_OPTS=-Djava.awt.headless=true -server -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=75 -XX:SurvivorRatio=64 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=3 -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ScavengeBeforeFullGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -Xms4g -Xmx10g" -e "CATALINA_OPTS=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=9001 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.rmi.port=9001 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false -Djava.rmi.server.hostname=localhost" ors-test

Docker starts up without issues or warnings and seems to work fine. Now, to give you an overview of my problem:

  1. I have a bunch of points in Saarland, which is part of the pbf.
  2. I can calculate routes between any of these points using the HGV-profile and get a time and distance.
  3. I can calculate a matrix between these points using the car-profile and get times and distances.
    [4. I can fire a matrix request with these points against the online-ORS-API using the HGV-profile and get times and distances.]

If I send a matrix request with these points using the HGV-profile against my own setup, I get an “Error : Openrouteservice API request failed. [6099] Unable to compute a distance/duration matrix.” This even remains when I limit the request to one origin and one destination, meaning my ORS-setup calculates a route between points A and B when requested via the routing-API, but not when requested via the matrix-API. On the other hand, the matrix-API seems to work fine when using the car-profile, but not when using the HGV-profile. I’ve tried a variety of settings in the profiles and the matrix-configuration of the ors-config.json to no avail; the problem persists even after blankly copying the car-profile into the hgv-profile (i.e., they have same settings).

Any help as to what’s going on here and how to solve it would be appreciated!
Best regards

2

Hey,

First, what might be helpful is the log of the docker container for the failing request.

Second, could you provide the requests from 1 through 4, maybe in a stripped-down version only containing three or four locations exposing the problem?

What version of the ors are you using when stating “download and extract ORS-Github-Repo”?
Does this problem persist with this saarland osm.pbf - it’s way smaller than the whole of germany and thus builds way quicker :slight_smile:

Best regards

3

Hey,
thanks for your fast answer!

  1. Please let me know where to find this! The log-folder remains empty, and docker container logs shows the same output as Docker Desktop, i.e. the Startup, which runs fine. A quick hint what to look at (or what to activate) would be great.

  2. Here are the four requests based on just two points:

Request 1: Route from A to B, HGV-Profile (No Issue) 
curl -X POST \
  'http://localhost:8080/ors/v2/directions/driving-hgv' \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Accept: application/json, application/geo+json, application/gpx+xml, img/png; charset=utf-8' \
  -d '{"coordinates":[[6.710510,49.25539],[6.755597,49.32754]]}'
Request 2: Matrix between A and B, Car-Profile (No Issue) 
curl -X POST \
  'http://localhost:8080/ors/v2/matrix/driving-car' \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Accept: application/json, application/geo+json, application/gpx+xml, img/png; charset=utf-8' \
  -d '{"locations":[[6.71051,49.25539],[6.755597,49.32754]]}'
Request 3: Matrix between A and B, HGV-Profile (Problem) 
curl -X POST \
  'http://localhost:8080/ors/v2/matrix/driving-hgv' \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Accept: application/json, application/geo+json, application/gpx+xml, img/png; charset=utf-8' \
  -d '{"locations":[[6.71051,49.25539],[6.755597,49.32754]]}'
Request 4: One-to-One Matrix from A to B, HGV-Profile (Still a Problem, even though should be identical to Request 1) 
curl -X POST \
  'http://localhost:8080/ors/v2/matrix/driving-hgv' \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Accept: application/json, application/geo+json, application/gpx+xml, img/png; charset=utf-8' \
  -d '{"locations":[[6.71051,49.25539],[6.755597,49.32754]],"sources":[0],"destinations":[1]}'
Request 5: Matrix between A and B, HGV-Profile, against ORS-Online-API (No Issue) 
curl -X POST \
  'https://api.openrouteservice.org/v2/matrix/driving-hgv' \
  -H 'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Accept: application/json, application/geo+json, application/gpx+xml, img/png; charset=utf-8' \
  -H 'Authorization: %%KEY%%' \
  -d '{"locations":[[6.71051,49.25539],[6.755597,49.32754]]}'

  1. That’s the current content of the Repo (i.e., as of last Thursday).

  2. There is no issue using the Saarland-data, everything works as expected. That’s where this issue reminded me a bit of my last one, where also everything worked well with the Saarland, but not with the German data. I completely agree that this behavior makes it annoying to deal with, as it takes quite a while every time one recalculates the graphs…

Best regards

4

Hey,

thanks for your info!
Regarding 1., something like docker logs -f ors-hgv should work.
If that doesn’t give enough output, have a look at the logs/ folder you created or docker exec -it ors-hgv bash into your container and tail -f /var/log/ors/ors.log or something along those lines.

Best regard

5

Thanks for the instructions! The logs/ folder stays empty, and the logs reported are identical using docker logs an docker exec -it bash. This is the total log I get from either one, but it doesn’t include anything related to individual requests:

Log 
### openrouteservice configuration ###
No ors-config.json in ors-conf folder. Copy config from /ors-core/openrouteservice/src/main/resources/ors-config.json
### Package openrouteservice and deploy to Tomcat ###
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /usr/local/tomcat
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/local/tomcat
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/local/tomcat/temp
Using JRE_HOME:        /usr/local/openjdk-11
Using CLASSPATH:       /usr/local/tomcat/bin/bootstrap.jar:/usr/local/tomcat/bin/tomcat-juli.jar
Using CATALINA_OPTS:   -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=9001 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.rmi.port=9001 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false -Djava.rmi.server.hostname=localhost
NOTE: Picked up JDK_JAVA_OPTIONS:  --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.io=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util.concurrent=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.rmi/sun.rmi.transport=ALL-UNNAMED
30-Jun-2022 13:38:41.820 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Server version name:   Apache Tomcat/8.5.69
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30-Jun-2022 13:38:41.830 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener.lifecycleEvent The Apache Tomcat Native library which allows using OpenSSL was not found on the java.library.path: [/usr/java/packages/lib:/usr/lib64:/lib64:/lib:/usr/lib]
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30-Jun-2022 13:38:41.962 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR Deploying web application archive [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ors.war]
30-Jun-2022 13:38:59.460 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.jasper.servlet.TldScanner.scanJars At least one JAR was scanned for TLDs yet contained no TLDs. Enable debug logging for this logger for a complete list of JARs that were scanned but no TLDs were found in them. Skipping unneeded JARs during scanning can improve startup time and JSP compilation time.
13:39:02.224 [localhost-startStop-1] INFO  org.heigit.ors.config.AppConfig - Default path of 'ors-config.json' used for configuration
13:39:02.336 [localhost-startStop-1] INFO  org.heigit.ors.config.AppConfig - Loading configuration from /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ors/WEB-INF/classes/ors-config.json

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30 Jun 13:39:07 INFO [ors.Application] - Starting Application v6.7.0 on f8a1613d2e5f with PID 139 (/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ors/WEB-INF/classes started by root in /ors-core)
30 Jun 13:39:07 DEBUG [ors.Application] - Running with Spring Boot v2.3.5.RELEASE, Spring v5.2.10.RELEASE
30 Jun 13:39:07 INFO [ors.Application] - No active profile set, falling back to default profiles: default
SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further details.
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [ors.Application] - Started Application in 18.618 seconds (JVM running for 41.278)
<?xml version="1.0" ?><Configuration><Properties><Property name="filename">/var/log/ors/ors-logs.log</Property></Properties></Configuration>30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] -  Total - 4.00 GB, Free - 3.85 GB, Max: 10 GB, Used - 161.98 MB
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] -       
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ====> Initializing profiles from 'data/osm_file.pbf' (1 threads) ...
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] -                               
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] -                
30-Jun-2022 13:39:19.619 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployWAR Deployment of web application archive [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ors.war] has finished in [37,657] ms
30-Jun-2022 13:39:19.621 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deploying web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/manager]
30 Jun 13:39:19 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [1] Profiles: 'driving-car', location: 'data/graphs/car'.
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.319 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deployment of web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/manager] has finished in [698] ms
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.319 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deploying web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/examples]
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.433 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deployment of web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/examples] has finished in [114] ms
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.434 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deploying web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/docs]
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30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.444 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deploying web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ROOT]
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.459 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deployment of web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/ROOT] has finished in [15] ms
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.459 INFO [localhost-startStop-1] org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDirectory Deploying web application directory [/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/host-manager]
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30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.481 INFO [main] org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol.start Starting ProtocolHandler ["http-nio-8080"]
30-Jun-2022 13:39:20.492 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start Server startup in 37677 ms
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [1] FlagEncoders: 1, bits used [UNKNOWN]/64.
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [1] Capacity: [UNKNOWN]. (edges - 11258298, nodes - 8890966)
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [1] Total time: 65.428s.
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [1] Finished at: 2022-06-30 13:40:25.
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] -                               
30 Jun 13:40:25 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [2] Profiles: 'driving-hgv', location: 'data/graphs/hgv'.
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [2] FlagEncoders: 1, bits used [UNKNOWN]/64.
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [2] Capacity: [UNKNOWN]. (edges - 9759447, nodes - 7756140)
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [2] Total time: 40.207s.
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] - [2] Finished at: 2022-06-30 13:41:05.
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfile] -                               
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - Total time: 105.709s.
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ========================================================================
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ====> Recycling garbage...
30 Jun 13:41:05 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - Before:  Total - 9.82 GB, Free - 8.26 MB, Max: 10 GB, Used - 9.81 GB
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - After:  Total - 10 GB, Free - 262.30 MB, Max: 10 GB, Used - 9.74 GB
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ========================================================================
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ====> Memory usage by profiles:
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - [1] 2.11 GB (21.7%)
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - [2] 1.73 GB (17.7%)
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - Total: 3.84 GB (39.4%)
30 Jun 13:41:10 INFO [routing.RoutingProfileManager] - ========================================================================
30 Jun 13:47:05 INFO [util.SystemMessage] - SystemMessage loaded 0 messages.

And just for information, these are the Logging settings in the standard config:

Settings 
    "logging": {
      "enabled": true,
      "level_file": "DEBUG_LOGGING.json",
      "location": "/var/log/ors",
      "stdout": true

Is there a way to access this “DEBUG_LOGGING.json” mentioned here, and would that help?

Best regards

6

Hey,

I can reproduce the issue, but am also at a loss as to why this might happen.
I’ll link this in an issue - I can imagine that this is only a configuration issue, but it might as well be a bug in the code.

Best regards,

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7

Thanks for the info! Good to know that at least it’s not (only) my system and I’m not at a complete loss.

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8

@jschnell, as the issue has been open for three weeks now with no further progress: Is there any way to get things moving or any way I can further contribute? It would be good to at least have the feeling that someone will have a look at the issue eventually… :slight_smile: